The Science of Flipping

• Lost $100K on His First Flip—Now He Closes 30 Deals a Month and Owns a $20M Portfolio | Tommy Harr

  In this episode, I sat down with Tommy Harr—a friend, powerhouse investor, and someone I respect deeply in the real estate game. Tommy shares how he went from losing $100K on his very first flip to owning over $20 million in real estate and consistently closing 30+ deals a month. We talked about the gritty lessons that built his empire—cold calling, TV ads, building a sales team, and mastering construction. He also opens up about the sacrifices he made early on, like living in his own living room, and how social media became a powerful tool for raising millions in private capital. If you're trying to go from stuck to scaling, this one’s a real blueprint. -- About Tommy Harr: Tommy Harr is a real estate investor based in Columbus, Ohio, who transitioned from a home inspector to a real estate entrepreneur. By the age of 27, he achieved financial freedom through real estate investing. Tommy has completed over 200 wholesale deals, renovated more than 150 properties, and manages a portfolio of 70 rental units valued at $15 million, along with 25 in-house managed short-term rentals. He is the founder of the Real Side Real Estate Community, where he mentors aspiring investors nationwide. Connect with Tommy Harr Website: Real Side Real Estate Instagram: @tommyharr05 TikTok: @tommyharr05 LinkedIn: Thomas Harr Linktree: linktr.ee/tommyharr05 -- Thank you to Mando for supporting today's podcast! Stay Fresh, Stay Confident with Mando! Tired of body odor? Mando Whole Body Deodorant keeps you fresh for up to 72 hours—pits, feet, and everywhere in between. Grab the Starter Pack and get $5 off (over 40% off!) with code [COLBY] at ShopMando.com. Smell fresher, stay drier, and boost your confidence. Get yours today! -- About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby​ YouTube: Justin Colby​ TikTok: @justincolbytsof​ LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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• F*ck Big Banks: How This Man is Flipping the Lending System | Tim Herriage

  In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and industry powerhouse Tim Herriage, the founder of Ternus. We dive deep into how he went from helping bring Wall Street money into real estate to now flipping the script and decentralizing the entire lending model. Tim shares how Ternus is making real estate investing easier and faster with 100% financing, 24-hour draw payments, and a no-nonsense, people-first approach. We talk about why he built Ternus for real investors—by real investors—and how anyone, not just institutions, can now own a piece of the lending game through their new crowdfunding model. If you're tired of big banks and slow lenders, this episode is for you. -- About Tim Herriage: ​Tim Herriage is a seasoned real estate entrepreneur and investor with over two decades of experience in the industry. As the Founder and CEO of Ternus, he leads a company dedicated to providing fast and reliable capital to real estate investors, emphasizing a partnership approach to help clients build wealth and create lasting legacies. Resources & Links: Learn more & apply: https://ternus.comInvest & become a shareholder: https://invest.ternus.com Instagram: @timherriage LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timherriage​ YouTube: youtube.com/c/timherriage​ Facebook: facebook.com/herriage -- Thank you to our partners for supporting today's episode! Empowered Investor LIVE! - Take control of your financial future with top real estate experts, builders, lenders, and investors. Join Us at Empowered Investor Live – April 4-6, 2025, in Irvine, CA! Spots are limited – grab your ticket now! 👉 Get Tickets Joe Homebuyer – Want to scale your real estate business fast? Get expert training, weekly coaching, and a proven system to close more deals. High achievers even qualify for luxury rewards! Learn more at joehomebuyer.com. 📊 Quality Skip – More accurate data means more deals! Get premium skip tracing for just 6 cents per match and connect with the right sellers every time. Use code "SOF" for 10% off at qualityskip.com! Mando Whole Body Deodorant – Stay fresh and confident with Mando's doctor-developed, aluminum-free deodorant. Clinically proven to block odor for up to 72 hours, it's safe for use anywhere on your body. Use code 'COLBY' for $5 off a Starter Pack! -- About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby​ YouTube: Justin Colby​ TikTok: @justincolbytsof​ LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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• The 2 Things That Actually Get You Deals (Not Another $20K Course)

  Want do to deals TOGETHER? Join our community at www.reilive.co In this episode, I get real with you about what it actually takes to succeed in real estate investing — and spoiler: it’s not dropping $20K on another coaching program. After nearly two decades in this business and coaching thousands, I’ve realized that success comes down to just two things: having real conversations and making real offers. That’s it. I share why most new investors fail, how fear and unrealistic expectations sabotage progress, and why I built REI Live to do the work with you, not just talk at you. If you're serious about getting your first deal — or your next one — this is the roadmap.   -- Thank you to our partners for supporting today's episode! Empowered Investor LIVE! - Take control of your financial future with top real estate experts, builders, lenders, and investors. Join Us at Empowered Investor Live – April 4-6, 2025, in Irvine, CA! Spots are limited – grab your ticket now! 👉 Get Tickets Joe Homebuyer – Want to scale your real estate business fast? Get expert training, weekly coaching, and a proven system to close more deals. High achievers even qualify for luxury rewards! Learn more at joehomebuyer.com. 📊 Quality Skip – More accurate data means more deals! Get premium skip tracing for just 6 cents per match and connect with the right sellers every time. Use code "SOF" for 10% off at qualityskip.com! Mando Whole Body Deodorant – Stay fresh and confident with Mando's doctor-developed, aluminum-free deodorant. Clinically proven to block odor for up to 72 hours, it's safe for use anywhere on your body. Use code 'COLBY' for $5 off a Starter Pack! --   About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby YouTube: Justin Colby TikTok: @justincolbytsof LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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• Why Bigger Isn’t Better — How to Scale Smarter, Convert More, and Keep More Profit

  In this episode, I break down one of the biggest myths in real estate investing — that bigger is always better. After 18 years in the game, I’ve learned that chasing more leads, building bigger teams, and spending more on marketing doesn’t automatically mean more profit. In fact, it can crush your margins. I share how focusing on lead conversion, leveraging tech like LeadDetector.io, Rocketly CRM, and AI-driven data, and running a lean, efficient operation can make you way more money with fewer people. My goal is to show you that you don’t need a massive team or huge overhead to hit $100K months — you just need the right systems, the right mindset, and the discipline to focus on profit over vanity metrics. -- Resources & Tools Mentioned: ✅ LeadDetector.io — Capture 20-30% more leads that never opt in: https://leaddetector.io✅ Rocket Sites — Done-for-you investor websites that convert: https://rocketsites.com✅ Rocketly CRM — AI-driven CRM with lead nurturing automation: https://rocketlycrm.com✅ REI Lead Machine — Pull high-quality, AI-enhanced seller lists: https://reileadmachine.com -- Thank you to our partners for supporting today's episode! Empowered Investor LIVE! - Take control of your financial future with top real estate experts, builders, lenders, and investors. Join Us at Empowered Investor Live – April 4-6, 2025, in Irvine, CA! Spots are limited – grab your ticket now! 👉 Get Tickets Joe Homebuyer – Want to scale your real estate business fast? Get expert training, weekly coaching, and a proven system to close more deals. High achievers even qualify for luxury rewards! Learn more at joehomebuyer.com. 📊 Quality Skip – More accurate data means more deals! Get premium skip tracing for just 6 cents per match and connect with the right sellers every time. Use code "SOF" for 10% off at qualityskip.com! Mando Whole Body Deodorant – Stay fresh and confident with Mando's doctor-developed, aluminum-free deodorant. Clinically proven to block odor for up to 72 hours, it's safe for use anywhere on your body. Use code 'COLBY' for $5 off a Starter Pack! --   About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby YouTube: Justin Colby TikTok: @justincolbytsof LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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• The Leadership Mistake That’s Killing Your Business (And How to Fix It) | Cody Hofhine

  In this episode, I sit down with real estate powerhouse Cody Hofhine to break down exactly what it takes to scale from hustling investor to CEO of an 80+ franchise empire. We dive deep into the real reason most investors stay stuck—spoiler: it’s not marketing, it’s mindset and leadership. Cody shares his journey from selling vinyl fences to co-owning Joe Homebuyer, the power of personal development in business growth, and the negotiation tactics that will transform your deal flow. We also discuss why most investors fail to scale, the biggest leadership mistakes entrepreneurs make, and how to build a business that doesn’t just make money but also gives you freedom. If you’re ready to stop making excuses, level up your mindset, and lead like a CEO, this episode is a must-listen! -- Cody Hofhine is a successful real estate investor, mentor, and entrepreneur, known for his expertise in wholesaling and real estate investing. He is the co-founder of Wholesaling Inc., founder of Utah Sell Now, LLC, and creator of the Real Estate Freedom Formula, where he helps others build profitable real estate businesses. After struggling in insurance sales, Cody discovered wholesaling in 2015 and closed his first deal in just 39 days, making $24,000. Since then, he has scaled multiple businesses, landed on the Inc. 5000 list, and helped thousands of investors succeed through coaching and mentorship. Website: joehomebuyer.com Instagram: @codyhofhine Facebook: Cody Hofhine​ LinkedIn: Cody Hofhine​ -- Thank you to our partners for supporting today's episode! Empowered Investor LIVE! - Take control of your financial future with top real estate experts, builders, lenders, and investors. Join Us at Empowered Investor Live – April 4-6, 2025, in Irvine, CA! Spots are limited – grab your ticket now! 👉 Get Tickets Joe Homebuyer – Want to scale your real estate business fast? Get expert training, weekly coaching, and a proven system to close more deals. High achievers even qualify for luxury rewards! Learn more at joehomebuyer.com. 📊 Quality Skip – More accurate data means more deals! Get premium skip tracing for just 6 cents per match and connect with the right sellers every time. Use code "SOF" for 10% off at qualityskip.com! Mando Whole Body Deodorant – Stay fresh and confident with Mando's doctor-developed, aluminum-free deodorant. Clinically proven to block odor for up to 72 hours, it's safe for use anywhere on your body. Use code 'COLBY' for $5 off a Starter Pack! -- About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby YouTube: Justin Colby TikTok: @justincolbytsof LinkedIn: Justin Colby  

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