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Peter Fader | Wharton School | The Warby Parker Case - I Can See Clearly Now With My CLTV Glasses On
A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Peter Fader, Professor of Marketing at The Wharton School of Business. This show is a bookend to "The Rise & Fall of Peloton as Seen Through the Lens of CLTV" with Professor Dan McCarthy.Pete discusses the use of Customer Lifetime Value (CLTV) as key to understanding the true value of the company and explains why it is risky to think "Your company is different." Key topics include: why customer metrics and stock valuations can be temporarily out of synch; why customer metrics eventually win out; how CMO's can use CLTV as a forecasting bridge with Finance; and how Warby Parker's strategic focus did not bend during dramatic stock price fluctuations. Tune in to hear why Warby is the Tortoise and Peloton is The Hare in the classic race.Discover the real story behind Warby Parker's dramatic $6B valuation swing and subsequent recovery through the lens of customer lifetime value analysis. Dr. Peter Fader, Professor at The Wharton School and co-founder of Zodiac (acquired by Nike), reveals how his team accurately predicted Warby Parker's true valuation before its IPO.Get an insider's look at how customer metrics and lifetime value calculations painted a different picture than Wall Street's initial $6B valuation. Learn why Warby Parker's steady approach to growth, unlike Peloton's aggressive expansion, ultimately proved successful. Dr. Fader breaks down the critical customer acquisition costs (CAC) miscalculations in Warby Parker's S-1 filing and explains how proper cohort analysis predicts company value.This episode provides invaluable insights for marketers and business leaders on using customer lifetime value to make strategic decisions, communicate with CFOs, and evaluate company worth beyond stock price fluctuations. Perfect for marketing executives, financial analysts, and anyone interested in the intersection of customer metrics and company valuation.Join Mike Linsing, 5-time CMO, as he explores this fascinating case study that demonstrates why understanding customer economics is crucial for sustainable business growth and accurate company valuation.#growthhacking #performancemarketing #digitalmarketing #marketresearch #warbyparkeripoCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro02:00 - Using Customer Data and CLTV05:52 - Warby Parker IPO Overview11:29 - Warby Parker's Stock Price Impact15:35 - Analyzing Warby Parker's CAC Error18:18 - Warby Parker's Economic Performance19:36 - Warby Parker: Tortoise vs. Hare Strategy21:36 - Projecting TAM for International Expansion23:17 - Projecting TAM for New Product Lines27:59 - Wrapping Up Warby Parker Insights29:30 - Marketing Advice and Strategies30:16 - Conducting a Customer Base Audit30:56 - Understanding Company Differentiation31:56 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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McKinsey & A.N.A | Marketing - The Battle Between Believers & Non-Believers - Part 2 | Replay
A CMO Confidential Interview with McKinsey Marketing & Sales Partner Robert Tas and Nick Primola, EVP and Head of the CMO Practice at the Association of National Advertisers. We discuss their recent study and Wall Street Journal article showing that CEO's who have marketing at the center of their strategy have measurably better results. They discuss the 3 types of CEO's including "non-believers" and why so many still exist, the dangers of running marketing as a cost center, and the tremendous variability of the CMO role. Key topics include: the biggest areas of misalignment; the need to connect to financial outcomes; how marketing needs to "claw it's way back;" and their belief that it is "Ludicrous to think the CMO role is going away." Listen in to hear why Business Schools are a significant part of the problem.CMO Crisis: Why can't 98% of marketing leaders agree on KPIs? Dive into this critical issue with 5-time CMO Mike Linton and guests Robert Tas and Nick Primola. Explore the disconnect between CMOs and CEOs, the role of business schools in marketing education, and strategies for aligning marketing with business objectives.Key topics include:• The challenge of defining and measuring marketing KPIs• How business schools contribute to fragmented marketing education• The importance of CMO-CEO alignment and communication• Strategies for demonstrating marketing's value to the C-suite• The need for customer-centric approaches in marketingTune in to hear expert insights on bridging the gap between marketing leaders and business objectives. Learn how to position marketing as a critical driver of business growth and navigate the evolving landscape of marketing leadership.Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more exclusive content on marketing strategy, leadership, and industry trends. Don't miss out on valuable insights to elevate your marketing game and drive business success.#digitalmarketing #socialmediamarketing #marketingautomation #digitalmarketingcourse #kpiCHAPTERS:00:00 - Props00:22 - Business Schools Critique05:24 - CMO Remit Responsibilities07:14 - Customer Representation Issues14:12 - Marketers on Boards: A Shortage17:45 - Practical Marketing Advice & Stories21:10 - Discover Our Other Shows21:36 - Like, Share, and Subscribe21:40 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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McKinsey & A.N.A | Marketing: The Battle Between Believers & Non Believers | Part 1
This week's holiday episode revisits one of our most popular shows from the past year where leaders from @McKinsey and @ANAmarketers discuss the continued divide between marketing believers and non-believers.A CMO Confidential Interview with McKinsey Marketing & Sales Partner Robert Tas and Nick Primola, EVP and Head of the CMO Practice at the ANA. We discuss their recent study and Wall Street Journal article showing that CEO's who have marketing at the center of their strategy have measurably better results. They discuss the 3 types of CEO's including "non-believers" and why so many still exist, the dangers of running marketing as a cost center, and the tremendous variability of the CMO role. Key topics include: the biggest areas of misalignment; the need to connect to financial outcomes; how marketing needs to "claw it's way back;" and their belief that it is "Ludicrous to think the CMO role is going away." Listen in to hear why Business Schools are a significant part of the problem.Explore why 90% of CEOs don't trust marketing in this revealing discussion with McKinsey partner Robert Tosh and ANA's EVP Nick Primola. Discover the shocking disconnect between CEOs and CMOs, and learn why companies with marketing-focused leadership generate significantly more growth.This eye-opening conversation dives into McKinsey and ANA's groundbreaking research, featured in The Wall Street Journal, revealing three distinct CEO archetypes and their varying approaches to marketing. Former CMO Mike Linton hosts an honest discussion about the challenges facing modern marketing leaders and the critical need to bridge the trust gap between marketing and the C-suite.Key insights include:• Why less than 10% of Fortune 500 CEOs have marketing experience• How successful CMOs align with CEO priorities and prove marketing's value• The importance of translating marketing metrics into business outcomes• Strategies for building credibility with non-marketing executivesPerfect for CMOs, marketing leaders, and executives looking to understand and overcome the persistent skepticism around marketing's strategic value. Learn how to transform marketing from a cost center to a trusted driver of business growth.Join Mike Linton, former CMO of Best Buy, eBay, Farmers Insurance, and Ancestry.com, for this essential conversation about marketing's evolving role in the C-suite.#martech #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #influencermarketing #b2bmarketingCHAPTERS:00:00 - Props Ad00:21 - Intro02:17 - State of the CMO06:11 - CMO Position Challenges08:23 - Non-Believing CEO Strategies12:02 - Brand vs. Performance Marketing15:34 - Article Reactions22:10 - Marketing Non-Believers Explained25:00 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Adam Brotman and Andy Sack | Forum 3 | It's a Bird! It's a Plane! Holy Shit, It's AI! Part 2
This is Part 2 of A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. They discuss why AI is different from previous technology advances and the series of "Holy Shit!" moments experienced when interviewing Sam Altman, Bill Gates and others. Key topics include: their belief that AI is "moving faster than you think" since it isn't constrained by an adoption curve or infrastructure; the power of Artificial General Intelligence which will be smarter than most experts; why trying to calculate the ROI of AI is comparable to measuring the return on electricity; and the possibility of 95% of marketing and agency jobs being impacted over the next 5 years. Tune in to hear how Chat GPT scored a top grade on the AP Biology Exam, how Moderna became an AI leader, and their tips for staying near the front of the wave.Discover how AI is revolutionizing marketing with 5X productivity gains, as revealed by top CMOs. In this episode of CMO Confidential, host Mike Lint explores the transformative power of AI in the marketing landscape. Adam and Andy, AI experts and authors, share insights on how companies like Moderna are leveraging AI to achieve unprecedented efficiency.Key topics include:• The real-world impact of AI adoption in biotech and marketing• How Moderna achieved 5X productivity gains with an AI-first approach• The future of marketing jobs in the age of AI• Strategies for marketers to become AI-literate and stay competitive• Evaluating AI vendors and measuring ROI in marketingTune in to hear practical advice on embracing AI in your marketing strategy, from creating an AI council to implementing AI tools for enhanced productivity. Learn why AI literacy is crucial for marketers and how to combine domain knowledge with AI capabilities for breakthrough results.Don't miss this eye-opening discussion on the future of marketing in the AI era. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more insights on marketing leadership and innovation.#leadgeneration #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #makemoneywithai #brandinginthedigitalageCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro04:06 - AI Impact on Marketing05:46 - AGI and Marketers11:57 - Evaluating AI Vendors16:14 - AI Literacy and Proficiency21:00 - ROI of AI26:35 - Final Questions30:00 - Additional Practical Advice33:07 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Adam Brotman and Andy Sack | Forum 3| It's a Bird! It's a Plane! Holy Shit, It's AI!" Part 1
A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. They discuss why AI is different from previous technology advances and the series of "Holy Shit!" moments experienced when interviewing Sam Altman, Bill Gates and others. Key topics include: their belief that AI is "moving faster than you think" since it isn't constrained by an adoption curve or infrastructure; the power of Artificial General Intelligence which will be smarter than most experts; why trying to calculate the ROI of AI is comparable to measuring the return on electricity; and the possibility of 95% of marketing and agency jobs being impacted over the next 5 years. Tune in to hear how Chat GPT scored a top grade on the AP Biology Exam, how Moderna became an AI leader, and their tips for staying near the front of the wave.Marketing's AI Revolution: What CMOs Need to Know Before 2025 | AI's impact on marketing strategiesTune in to hear former CMO Mike Linton discuss the AI revolution with Adam Brotman and Andy Sack, authors of "AI First". Key topics include:• The rapid advancement of AI and its potential to transform marketing• Insights from tech leaders like Sam Altman, Bill Gates, and Reid Hoffman• How AI could automate up to 95% of marketing tasks within 5 years• The concept of "agentic" AI and its implications for businesses• Strategies for marketers to adapt and thrive in an AI-driven landscapeAdam Brotman, former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, and Andy Sack, Managing Partner at Keane Capital, share their "holy shit moments" about AI's capabilities. Learn why they believe AI will revolutionize not just marketing, but entire industries and society itself.Discover how companies like Moderna are already leveraging AI to dramatically increase productivity and innovation. This episode is crucial for CMOs and marketers looking to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of AI-powered marketing.Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and insights on the future of marketing in the AI era.#marketingagainstthegrain #digitaltwin #aimarketing #operatingmodeltransformation #digitalmarketingCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro01:05 - Welcome Adam and Andy02:14 - Evolution of the Book06:47 - Sam Altman AGI Discussion12:05 - Bill Gates Insights16:31 - Defining "Holy Shit Moment"20:20 - Fears and Concerns Around AI21:24 - AI vs. Other Tech Revolutions22:19 - Exponential Change: COVID Preview26:40 - Linear vs. Exponential Change31:11 - Thinking About AI: Legal Briefs to Human Obliteration31:30 - AI's Future Impact32:14 - Moderna's AI Transformation35:58 - AI in Marketing and AgenciesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Wonder what it's like to control millions of dollars of marketing budget? Manage hundreds of people? Make the decisions on which ideas get to market?The CMO Confidential podcast shares how it feels to be in that chair of the shortest-tenured position on the C-suite.We detail the long, hard road most ideas take to get to market & how challenging it is to get the best ones through.Hosted by Mike Linton -- the former P&G Brand Manager who went on to be the Chief Marketing Officer of Best Buy, eBay, and Farmers Insurance, as well as the Chief Revenue Officer of Ancestry.com and the head marketer at Remington -- this show serves as an ongoing lesson plan for how to get, do, keep, and handle the pressures of the CMO job.CMO Confidential is Presented by Props: www.props.co