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Google DeepMind: The Podcast
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  • Consciousness, Reasoning and the Philosophy of AI with Murray Shanahan
    In this episode, Hannah is once again joined by Murray Shanahan, Professor of Cognitive Robotics at Imperial College London and Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, for a philosophical deep dive on AI. They explore everything from consciousness and metacognition in animals, to symbolic AI and neural networks. Murray also shares insights into his involvement with the film 'Ex Machina' and discusses the idea of reasoning, anthropomorphism, and the future of AI.Further reading / listening: Toward the future, S1 Ep 7: https://youtu.be/yf31XT1G1RQ?si=6mAEsQhKwKPWk9oH___Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah FrySeries Producer: Dan HardoonEditor: Rami TzabarCommissioner & Producer: Emma YousifMusic composition: Eleni ShawAudio engineer: Richard CourticeProduction Manager: Dan LazardVideo Director: Bernardo ResendeVideo Editor: Alex Baro Cayetano, Bilal MerhiAudio Engineer: Richard CourticeCamera and Lighting Operator: Robert MessereProduction Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen MortonVisual Identity and Design: Rob AshleyCommissioned by Google DeepMind___Subscribe to our channel to watch every episode: https://www.youtube.com/@googledeepmind Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!
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  • Is Human Data Enough? With David Silver
    In this episode of Google DeepMind: The Podcast, VP of Reinforcement Learning, David Silver, describes his vision for the future of AI, exploring the concept of the "era of experience" versus the current "era of human data". Using AlphaGo and AlphaZero as examples, he highlights how these systems surpassed human capabilities by engaging in reinforcement learning without prior human knowledge. This approach contrasts with large language models, which depend on human data and feedback. Silver emphasizes the need to explore this path to drive AI progress and achieve artificial superintelligence.Timestamps 00:00 Introduction01:50 Era of experience03:45 AlphaZero10:19 Move 3715:20 Reinforcement learning and human feedback24:30 AlphaProof29:50 Math Olympiads35:00 Experience based methods42:56 Hannah's reflections44:00 Fan Hui joins___Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah FrySeries Producer: Dan HardoonSeries Editor: Rami TzabarCommissioner & Producer: Emma YousifMusic Composition: Eleni ShawAudio Engineer: Richard CourticeProduction Manager: Dan LazardVideo Director and Editor: Bernardo ResendeVideo Studio Production: Nicholas DukeVideo Editor: Bilal MerhiAudio Engineer: Perry RogantinCamera and Lighting Operator: Robert MessereProduction Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen MortonVisual Identity and Design: Rob AshleyCommissioned by Google DeepMind Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!
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  • Project Astra: Exploring a Universal AI Assistant with Greg Wayne
    In our final episode for the year, we explore Project Astra, a research prototype exploring future capabilities of a universal AI assistant that can understand the world around you. Host Hannah Fry is joined by Greg Wayne, Director in Research at Google DeepMind. They discuss the inspiration behind the research prototype, its current strengths and limitations, as well as potential future use cases. Hannah even gets the chance to put Project Astra's multilingual skills to the test.Further reading / listening:Gemini 2.0Project Astra Decoding Google Gemini with Jeff DeanGaming, Goats & General Intelligence with Frederic BesseThanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah FrySeries Producer: Dan HardoonEditor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale StudiosCommissioner & Producer: Emma YousifMusic composition: Eleni ShawCamera Director and Video Editor: Bernardo ResendeAudio Engineer: Perry RogantinVideo Studio Production: Nicholas DukeVideo Editor: Bilal MerhiVideo Production Design: James BartonVisual Identity and Design: Eleanor TomlinsonCommissioned by Google DeepMind Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!
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  • Gemini 2.0 and the evolution of agentic AI with Oriol Vinyals
    In this episode, Hannah is joined by Oriol Vinyals, VP of Drastic Research and Gemini co-lead. They discuss the evolution of agents from single-task models to more general-purpose models capable of broader applications, like Gemini. Vinyals guides Hannah through the two-step process behind multi modal models: pre-training (imitation learning) and post-training (reinforcement learning). They discuss the complexities of scaling and the importance of innovation in architecture and training processes. They close on a quick whirlwind tour of some of the new agentic capabilities recently released by Google DeepMind. Note: To see all of the full length demos, including unedited versions, and other videos related to Gemini 2.0 head to YouTube.Future reading/watching: Gemini 2.0 Decoding Google Gemini with Jeff DeanGaming, Goats & General Intelligence with Frederic BesseThanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah FrySeries Producer: Dan HardoonEditor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale Studios Commissioner & Producer: Emma YousifMusic composition: Eleni ShawCamera Director and Video Editor: Bernardo ResendeAudio Engineer: Perry RogantinVideo Studio Production: Nicholas DukeVideo Editor: Bilal MerhiVideo Production Design: James BartonVisual Identity and Design: Eleanor TomlinsonCommissioned by Google DeepMind— Subscribe to our YouTube channel Find us on XFollow us on InstagramAdd us on Linkedin Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!
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  • The Balancing Act: Regulation & AI with Nicklas Lundblad
    There is broad consensus across the tech industry, governments and society, that as artificial intelligence becomes more embedded in every aspect of our world, regulation will be essential. But what does this look like? Can it be adopted without stifling innovation? Are current frameworks presented by government leaders headed in the right direction?Join host Hannah Fry as she discusses these questions and more with Nicklas Lundblad, Director of Public Policy at Google DeepMind. Nicklas emphasises the importance of a nuanced approach to regulation, focusing on adaptability and evidence-based policymaking. He highlights the complexities of assessing risk and reward in emerging technologies, advocating for a focus on harm reduction. Further reading/watching:AI Principles: https://ai.google/responsibility/principles/Frontier Model Forum: https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/google-microsoft-openai-anthropic-frontier-model-forum/Ethics of AI assistants with Iason Gabriel https://youtu.be/aaZc-as-soA?si=0ThbYY30FlO31kKQThanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah FrySeries Producer: Dan HardoonEditor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale StudiosCommissioner & Producer: Emma YousifMusic composition: Eleni ShawCamera Director and Video Editor: Bernardo ResendeAudio Engineer: Perry RogantinVideo Studio Production: Nicholas DukeVideo Editor: Bilal MerhiVideo Production Design: James BartonVisual Identity and Design: Eleanor TomlinsonCommissioned by Google DeepMind Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!
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